Don't Kill the Casual - Progression through emersion should happen naturally

Post by Ridiric on 2021-06-28 17:04:08

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Post by Azherae on 2021-06-28 17:18:24

The basic reason to not do what you're suggesting is that it does not actually have any effect.

It helps with 'finding groups for leveling', but doesn't do much else of note. People just level alts or other crafts and claim all the same benefits of 'grinding a lot'. Technically, getting people to grind more is better because it funnels them and slows them down.

When the server only has 30 people at level 44, it is harder for those people to form EXP-efficient groups so they either slow down anyway, or already had a full group 'static' who would still just take advantage of the cap (disclaimer: I am basically in the second category).

Occasionally a 'random lower level player' would get a chance to enter one of their 'alt parties' and level a bit faster, but the experience doesn't directly improve.

We really want those players with lots and lots of time to find each other and push forward together, because this is actually a stronger 'drag force' on their progression than any that can be put in by the developers. XP debt makes this even more effective.

Those sorts of people will get ahead in terms of gear, money, influence, and boss encounters either way. The only thing we really would need to care about is something to prevent level 50 players from 'farming' level 20 boss/raid enemies and not letting the 'intended level' of player get that experience.

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Post by Azherae on 2021-06-29 13:51:52

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Well, I don't see what you're saying and I don't understand it, but I won't assume you are wrong or that your experience is invalid. You are going to have to explain in more detail what it is you have experienced though.

Is this about a personality thing of other players, or a game mechanics thing, or both?

I am by most definitions a 'carebear with a static'. If I was able to play a lot with that static group and hit max level 5x as fast as the average player, or let's say you in particular, actually, what is it that I will 'do' that ruins your experience? What is the 'nonsense'?

Is it that I'd 'dictate the best builds'? Just don't follow them.

Is it that I would 'not need to level with you'? You just need more people who aren't me, and I wasn't likely to level with you anyway.

Is it that I somehow 'delete' or 'control' content that you want to experience at your own level? I won't do it, and maybe instanced stuff can help.

Is it because I will 'figure out that content faster than you will by lots of trial and error'? In all arrogance, I don't need much trial and error for most content, so this only affects you if you are also really good at this and can convey your insights to all the random players you are grouping with (unless you also have a static who can just play less, in which case it only matters if people in your static just look up the guides someone like me makes instead of experiencing the content).

Are we talking about max level Artisan stuff where people control the market, and not character levels?

Forgive this line but this boils down to what you expressed at the end of your last post.

"Who hurt you, and how did they do it?"

Maybe someone can explain better 'how Ashes intends to prevent you from being hurt again', or, will understand and accept your situation if Ashes has no plans of preventing whatever it is. No one can deny you an endgame here as far as we understand their plans, but you might have a really specific definition of 'enjoyable endgame'.

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