PvP corruption work around

Post by Bstone2691 on 2022-05-09 20:40:40

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-05-09 21:22:05

The point of the corruption system is to punish anyone who tries to kill too many people or just kill non-combatants too often. Yes, bring your friends to the slaughter of the reds, they are welcomed.

As for "clearing my friend's corruption", they'll still suffer all the penalties that come with death while being red. If you really want to help your friend, better help him grind that corruption off.

Neither of those are a work around. As the system is currently presented, those are working as they should. Now Intrepid might change smth once people, who have never even heard of Lineage 2, finally test the system out, but I personally don't see it changing too much.

Post by tautau on 2022-05-09 21:28:24

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-05-09 21:48:00

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Yeah, in L2 if you saw a red player - you'd start killing him immediately, unless you saw that he was way stronger than you. Players were the bulls and reds were the piece of cloth in the hands of a toreador, except the players had a higher chance of hitting their target than the bulls do.

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-05-10 00:11:43

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That is if they prohibit us from ressing corrupted players. I'd personally prefer they allow it, but I could definitely see how a lot of people would be against that.

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-05-10 01:07:48

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And I hope this takes a ton of time and resources. So that even the people who PK rarely would sooner or later garner quite a few PKs on their character and would get quite a bit of corruption after just one kill.

And at that point I feel like rezing them would be viable, because if they killed someone while they were farming with their friends, they weren't really genociding people but still got a ton of corruption. Grinding it off would take too long so it'd be faster to rezkill yourself a few times and remove it (though I'd assume your gear and XP debt would be real fucking bad, but that's a topic for another discussion).

But now here's a tie-in to the BH system. Let's say you PK someone deep in a dungeon and get a ton of corruption. You got your friends with you to rezkill you, but it'll still take a few mins (if you were under mobs or maybe there's a bigger fight going on, etc) so any surrounding BHs might get you on their radars. And they'd probably go towards you to claim their reward. If your friends can rez you, you gonna stay in the same place for a while and high lvl BHs that were in the same dungeon would have a higher chance of getting to you. But if you have to rez on your own and respawn in some random place, you might have more time to run away from other BHs, or maybe even kill them because the ones on the outside are weaker than dungeon-farming ones. And now you might even have enough time to run to your freehold and just wait for your friends to come kill you safely.

So in a way allowing PK rezing could be beneficial for both the BHs and the PKers.
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Imo flagging up would be just fine, because you still become a ffa pvp piƱata.

Post by George_Black on 2022-05-10 01:12:18

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-05-10 01:22:11

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Oh, for sure. You suffer the same penalties, but just lose the same amount of corruption that you would've were you to just respawn.
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L2 allowed it. Now I know that Ashes is not L2, nor am I saying it should be, but I'm just saying that there's precedent for it working out just fine.

Now there's also the issue of XP debt removal and how that would work in party farming. Let's say you got so much debt that your stats equal that of a lvl40 character (while you're at lvl50). In theory you'd have to fight lvl40 mobs to remove the debt, right? But what if your party of lvl50 people just "powerlvls" you through your debt? Is there a limit to that? Does that even work? Can't wait till we get some answers in Alpha2.

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