Please use a deposit-based listing fee instead of standard listing fee

While I do see your point and might even agree with it, I'd say that the chat spam issue could be resolved by some chat filter options. L2 had a nice system where you'd just not see the spam that people would shout in the trading channel (chat channels are obviously needed too)


And you could change these filters for each chat channel too.

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Global chat would still be part of the filters. Also, there might not even be a global chat (and I sure as hell hope there isn't). And as the right screen shot in my post shows, you can also just filter out particular words (i.e. wts, wtb, wtt, etc), so even if there is a global chat - you can still tune out any and all potential spamming.

And as the final defense against such spam, GMs could enforce the "trade posts only for trade chat" rule, if there is a global chat after all. Or maybe there could be some simple chat bot that redirects any trade messages from global to trade.

In other words, there's definitely ways of avoiding trade spam. And as others said, there might be some other issues in your suggestion. Also, afaik Intrepid employed an economist to build out their economy system and trading might be included in that, so if the current design remains - it'd mean that a professional economist said "yeah, that's good design".

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This channel doesn't allow clips and a ton of others don't even have vods, so this is a bit janky. At 0:16:20 there's a runthrough of L2's classic marketplace. You see people's short descriptions of what they have, you click on their "stall" and see their prices and maybe other items. I imagine AoC's markets to have the same core idea, but just done in a cleaner way.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1558361130?t=0h16m20s

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In other words, there's definitely ways of avoiding trade spam. And as others said, there might be some other issues in your suggestion. Also, afaik Intrepid employed an economist to build out their economy system and trading might be included in that, so if the current design remains - it'd mean that a professional economist said "yeah, that's good design".

Oho, there was good news on that front that I missed?

(Last time I checked they were still looking for Senior Economy Designer)

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Oho, there was good news on that front that I missed?

(Last time I checked they were still looking for Senior Economy Designer)

Alternatively I might've heard the same info, but worded differently And I dunno how to double check my sources, cause I don't fucking remember where I heard about it last time, even though it was a few days ago I'm consuming too much content these days.

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This is the primary reason why games sometimes need this. Ashes, in particular, does benefit considerably from having disincentives for 'using the sale space as a bank'. Even if they limit it. And I'd definitely prefer 'looser limits on the number of items I can list' than 'not having to pay deposit-taxes', personally.