How to curb Hoarding

Post by maouw on 2022-10-31 12:14:11

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-10-31 12:22:17

As an avid hoarder I'm very very very much so against this suggestion.

And see no real reason why an mmo should prohibit hoarding. If anything, there's literally a reason TO hoard. You might gather some summer plants that are used in an important recipe and then for 3 more seasons there's gonna be no such plants in the world. And now you can sell those plants at an increased price. And the more you hoarded during summer - the more you can sell and profit.

Obviously others can do the same, but not everyone's a hoarder and not everyone thinks that far ahead. But the ones who do will benefit.

Post by maouw on 2022-10-31 12:31:38

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-10-31 12:38:33

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My freehold will be my storage and I will already be paying taxes for that shit. I don't want to pay even more just for storage.

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-10-31 12:58:18

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I feel like we're talking about different things. I'm talking about storage and not my inventory.

When I hear "hoarding" I'm not thinking about a kid who has 20 rocks in his pocket, I'm thinking about this shit
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We will most likely be able to carry at least several huge rocks and pieces of wood on us, so there's no real realism when it comes to the volume and size of materials. And considering the absence of that realism I see no reason why I couldn't just put insane amounts of stuff into my freehold. Just pack it up to the damn sky.

And as for scarcity - that's not linked to hoarding in any way. Scarcity just means that it's difficult to come by stuff. But you can still hoard it. You can still keep it in your storage forever and never take it out. And maybe after several months or even years you can collect so much of that scarce stuff that to you it wouldn't even feel scarce. But it would've still taken you a loooong time to get to that point, because you hoarded it instead of trading it away or using it.

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-10-31 13:28:42

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Yeah, that's on me, cause back when I played subnautica I'd drop stuff on the ground because all of my storage was already full. Like I said, I'm an avid hoarder in games.
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But they won't have you only carrying 3 logs of wood or one rock, because that's what your character would be physically able to carry. That's just bad game design outside of super realistic simulator games.
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No, it would mean that I'll go looking for more points of storage. And considering that node storage is not linked, I literally have 86 points of said storage (86th being my freehold, with potentially 87-88ths being apartment and in-node house).

A storage limit won't stop my hoarding, it'll only make me move around a bit more. But now instead of carrying everything to one point (that being my freehold), I'll just have stuff in different nodes and will use the caravan system less than I would've otherwise.
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If those dudes managed to farm up that much rare stuff - they deserve to put it out onto the market at whatever amounts they can. They spent time, potentially money, and had the knowledge of where and when to farm to achieve that amount of rare resources. They deserve to benefit from their actions.

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Basically all this.

Even basic economy design relative to expected playerbase would fix this.

And you don't even need to worry about 'early on' because of the way Ashes activities are incentivized. Economically this is a non-problem except if a VERY obvious error is made in itemization.

If it is, someone will point it out. There are enough players who do the economy thing seriously that one will see it.

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