Freedom in combat movements VS False feeling of freedom in combat movements

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I don't like the so called 'freedom of movement'.

I consider it to be low skill nonsense that removes risk from your actions.

I think balance suffers, I think player skill suffers, and I think PvE suffers, when it's available.

So I'll be on the list of 'players that don't agree with your last paragraph'.

I'm same as Azherae. I want to have big investment skills where I gotta think before using them, instead of just relying on my reaction speed.

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I disagree with this statement entirely. Mostly because it's wrong, but also because your argumentation in favor of it is flawed.

A goal of Ashes combat has been stated to be 'player agency'. I agree with this goal if that agency is about 'choice'. Given your above, very detailed argument, do you think it's a reasonable conclusion to believe that you favor agency over 'having to make a tradeoff'?

I want players to have a lot of freedom. But I want agency and freedom to be about 'freedom to choose'. However, the problem with freedom is that without limits, there are no 'choices'. In order for an action to be a choice there must be a trade off. For there to be a trade off, there must be inefficiencies.

This is my core disagreement and perception of why your argument is flawed. BDO's combat requires players to make choices. That is WHY their moves have some inefficiency in movement. This makes their PvP require a meaningful amount of skill. It is why in most good tab target games with good PvE you similarly do not always have complete freedom. Without having to make trade offs you simplify boss design.

A good hybrid system needs to have inefficiency in it's combat.

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It is easily possible.

The issue in BDO, the reason it's frenetic, has nothing to do with combos. It has to do with 'when you can cancel one animation into another', particularly into movement.

I fully expect that we are going to get something great from Intrepid in almost exactly this way, it is not difficult to program even for an MMO, it already exists in some.

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It is easily possible.

The issue in BDO, the reason it's frenetic, has nothing to do with combos. It has to do with 'when you can cancel one animation into another', particularly into movement.

I fully expect that we are going to get something great from Intrepid in almost exactly this way, it is not difficult to program even for an MMO, it already exists in some.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmRjTP3pw8o

How spot on NWO plays compared to what Ashes has played like in Alpha and shown in newer combat footage always catches me off guard with a critical sneak attack. Yeah it has it's flaws and needed smaller adjustments but like... Nah, IS really could just 'make their own owpvp sandpark version of NWO' and it'd fit everything they've tried explaining about how they want the game to work.

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Ashes is explicitly not rooting players in those scenarios.

If you carry a big weapon you might experience some slowdown while swinging, but you are still able to skate around. This is apparently a design pillar, you have nothing to worry about. (only I do, since I am one of the people who dislike the non-rooted version).