Ashes of Creation will have Pay To Win

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-08-03 22:30:26

As Voeltz said, p2w is not the same as rmt. A big solution I could see is an rmt report section where players could flag dudes who they don't know who suddenly have insanely rare/expensive gear. At which point GMs could track their logs and then track the gold/gear they have. If Intrepid has proper tools in place, this whole process should be fairly straight forward.

And nodes creating small communities would lead those new decked out people to stand out from the crowd. I've seen this kinda work in L2. I say "kinda" because I mainly played on private servers and in their case it was really p2w (cause it was just admins selling gear), but you'd always know if a completely new dude came onto the pvp scene with good gear because the community was small and big changes like that always stood out.

Pretty much imagine a small village that suddenly gets a completely random dude with a lambo that starts living there. No one knows where the hell he came from or how he has a lambo. AoC's nodes will kinda work the same way. With gear being really limited (especially the top stuff), you'll know most of people with great gear, so if there's suddenly a completely new face wearing amazing gear - it's gonna be a red flag.

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-08-03 23:11:09

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Doesn't WoW do that and it still doesn't help cause bot sellers can always just sell cheaper? And this dance can continue until literally everything in the game costs nothing.

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-08-03 23:34:05

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We won't know their solution because knowing it would help botters counter it.

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-08-03 23:54:21

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They've explained how they gonna not have p2w. They'll just have cosmetics and sub, which theoretically should provide them enough money to sustain development.

Rmt is not p2w. And their main presented way of countering bots/rmt is active GMs. Those GMs will have tools that we won't know about, at which point it's a question of whether you trust devs to make good enough tools and trust GMs to use them well enough. If you don't trust either - it's pointless to be screaming about that on the forums, because some people do trust them and some people are just waiting to decide (which can only happen after release), and you won't change their minds by just saying "I don't trust devs just because".

Post by LuKe_NuKeS_Em on 2022-08-03 23:54:46

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-08-04 00:00:05

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-08-04 00:35:13

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What solution were you expecting to see? The classic shitty "trading disabled" (which still doesn't solve the bot problem)? The 1984's "give us your ID?"

Intrepid has already said that they'll have system to combat any and all abuses/exploits/illegal activities in the game. If you don't trust the devs to do that, why are you even waiting for the game?

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