How Strong is the Secondary Archetype?

It is currently completely unknown, but yes, if you assume 'without your own group, who you made a lot of decisions with'...

You will be 'shoehorned' into being a Tank if you choose Tank, as we currently understand it, that's the design goal we've been given.

The actual specifics are still in development.

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Y'all think differently to me, I'm not even willing to assume this.

I'm here worrying about:

Devs: "Well this skill doesn't have anything Fire can do to enhance it so if you use the Elemental school for this specific skill you will automatically get a Lightning Augment because we think that would make the most sense for the skill".

"But... I'm a Fire Juggler Bard..."

"No, you're a Bard, that's your Primary Archetype, you CHOOSE to juggle fire, and you just CHOOSE not to take Elemental on this skill, it's all about choices mattering."

";_;"

Do we have a quote or reason to be certain that you 'could choose Fire as an elemental augment on every skill and actually know you will get Fire'?

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Yes I'm asking for the quote that implies exactly this because it would genuinely put my mind at ease quite a bit, and in my trawling, I have missed it.

Vaknar recently answered a Q&A question with:

"The Mage archetype offers four elemental schools as augments to a character's primary skills."

And explained that at this stage in development, further clarification is not available (I believe in a different thread).

I just really want to feel confident here, so please please provide me with anything I've missed. I often get caught in the trap of thinking 'this is obviously the way it is meant' and have to roll it back, as you know. I'd love to not have to be 'worrying' about Mage Augments or 'Four Elemental Schools' or whatever.

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Thank you very much! I'll look forward to it. Sorry for taking up your time with it, but I'm pretty sure that my preconceptions/worries are causing me to miss them/gloss over them due to already having an incorrectly primed interpretation.

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Thank you, Dygz.

Given those, presented in that specific order, I'm back to feeling mostly comfortable with this system.

I believe my problem comes with the way the wiki structures the information, which gives the opposite conclusion using some of the same quotes.

On the Elements section of the Mage page, we get all this as a preface to the same quote, as Vaknar provided.

"Mages will offer four Elemental schools of augmentation, such as Teleportation, Fire, Frost and Lightning (electrical)."

Which seemed to group Teleportation (for example, could be perceived as Planar?) as an Elemental school, and of course the 'offending line' itself...

"The Mage archetype offers four elemental schools as augments to a character's primary skills."

So it looks like one page is just not updated as much as the other, but through your efforts I no longer am 'worried that there are three Elemental schools'.