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So a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the overall playerbase managed to enjoy a game mode and you now think that this is the answer to any dev problems? Are there any concrete numbers on how many people tried the mode and bounced off? Are there any numbers at all really?We have not received permission from Arya_Yeshe to share the quoted post.
I don't care what a few streamers do on their stream. I care about info that could even remotely support your claims. 440k downloads doesn't tell me anything about how many people might've stopped playing after their first death to a random mob or fall dmg.We have not received permission from Arya_Yeshe to share the quoted post.
I don't care what a few streamers do on their stream. I care about info that could even remotely support your claims. 440k downloads doesn't tell me anything about how many people might've stopped playing after their first death to a random mob or a fall dmg.We have not received permission from Arya_Yeshe to share the quoted post.
Here's another google page. Only a fraction of the playerbase is interested in wow classic. Out of that fraction only a fraction is interested in hardcore (a real fucking small one by the looks of it). Out of that fraction only an even smaller fraction is interested enough to try it (that's the 440k, if repeated downloads are not counted). Out of that fraction only some part of those people will play long enough to have any meaningful experience with the mode, instead of leaving after only a few deaths.
So none of this is an indicator that the majority of players are interested in a super risk/reward hard gameplay in their mmos. Which is pretty much what others have said in this thread.
WoW streamers creaming their pants over this mode (again, I'm assuming only a select few out of thousands) is just an indicator of the usual WoW content being so damn stale that anything new and more exciting would obviously be great for their stream, so of course they'd enjoy it. Deathless runs are always fun to watch, but are very very rarely fun to play, because you gotta be stressed out of your damn mind over every single piece of content in the game (especially if the game is even remotely difficult). And if you don't stress and just "enjoy the ride", then your whole argument's premise is false.
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So grinding the same lowbie locations with the exact same mobs and quests over and over and over again is not boring?We have not received permission from Arya_Yeshe to share the quoted post.
Ashes is already doing this. They've already said they want the game to be fun from the very start. And they want pve to be non-trivial too.We have not received permission from Arya_Yeshe to share the quoted post.
Nor does repetition of wow hardcore. You wouldn't die to the mob if you were insanely careful and attentive, just as, I'm sure, people are trying to be in wow hardcore. Self-imposed rules do not add meaning or value to the inherent design of any game. Or, well, they don't do that to all the players of said game. Obviously it's gonna be meaningful and valuable to you, because you yourself made it so.We have not received permission from Arya_Yeshe to share the quoted post.
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Why increase hp if I'm gonna die either way in the end. Better to level up other stats and just git gud in fighting.
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Nope, don't see it at all. The game didn't change in any way. Some people just decided to play it in a different way. You can do that at any time with any game and it has nothing to do with what devs wanted you to do.We have not received permission from Arya_Yeshe to share the quoted post.
I've already said how it relates to AoC. That is "AOC WILL ALREADY HAVE THIS". So just as I've said before, and others have said already - there's nothing to learn from wow hardcore for Ashes.We have not received permission from Arya_Yeshe to share the quoted post.
The game will be for those who like it. It won't be super casuals and it won't be super PKers, because both of those extremes don't fit with what Ashes is going for. And those are mostly the "not everybody" that Steven keeps mentioning. There's obviously more groups that won't jell well with Ashes, but we'll know about those only when we learn more about the game.We have not received permission from Arya_Yeshe to share the quoted post.