Let’s Talk Enchanting!

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-06-07 14:06:06

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And yet Steven copied L2's pvp system. And depending on what exactly he meant by "item gets destroyed if you fail an OE" during an interview, he might've taken L2's OE system too.
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I have literally posted my own take in a response within this very conversation. But I made that take just to appeal to all the people who're yelling "omg my broken items that I didn't even think to back up! What will I ever do with my own hubris of thinking that I'll be the lucky one who get's the OE and not burn my stuff. Guess I'll die leave forever and ever".

My preferred system would still be the one from L2 :) I've seen/heard about the system in BDO, in LA, in B&S, I've read a ton of suggestions in this thread - and after all of that I still prefer L2's system. Not because of nostalgia, but because I just prefer that system.

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-06-07 14:32:01

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And I've played with this system for ~12 years and have seen hundreds if not thousands of people participating in the system and enjoying it. And not being dumb about not getting a damn backup. No one left because they lost some gear to the OE fails, because the only thing they lost was time - the same thing you'd lose in a 100% chance system where you just have to grind for hours upon hours to even get the chance to OE your gear.

The only times I've seen people leave the game after their OE fails is when they were leaving already and were just trying to OE their stuff as high as possible. And if some pieces outlived the amount of the OE scrolls - those pieces would then be given to friends/guildmates. But no one ever left due to failing an OE.

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-06-07 14:40:36

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BDO showed how not to do this system, while L2 showed how to do it right.
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Yeah, he casualized it so that it would fit with the current soft gamers. OE system is also soft, because it'll have ways of increasing your chance of success (though L2 had that too).
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Your only point is "people will leave because they were dumb enough to not get a back up before doing the riskiest thing they could do with their weapon". And as several people here have already said, that's on them and not on Intrepid or the system.

If you go out of your freehold, see a red player, approach it and get PKed, will you blame the system or will you know that it was your actions that led to your demise? OEing is literally the same. You make the choice of making that action and you need to know and be prepared for the consequences.

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-06-07 17:10:21

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Just as a curiosity, did they always just OE w/o backups or did they always have them, or somewhere in-between?

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