future showcase/livestream suggestions

Post by Chicago on 2023-01-27 23:52:54

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Post by Ludullu on 2023-01-28 00:29:52

If anything I found this stream way more structured than the cleric one. They shown off the abilities, shown off the great sword gameplay, the lone hammer gameplay and then the hammer+shield gameplay. They moved through a location, agroing mobs along the way and "just playing the game" as a group with a tank would (a kinda shitty tank, but Steven gonna Steven).

Unless they get another driver for the showcases and remove any kind of developer interaction from the videos - I doubt we'd get a much better stream. The ranger was pretty much the same thing, except it could be shown off solo, because that's how a ranger works. Steven still failed at gameplay, still had to use GM hacks, still had a very vague flow to the gameplay. The biggest difference was that he only had 3 abilities and 2 weapons to show off. And could show the difference in targeting along the way.

In other words, to me this was roughly on the same lvl as the ranger showcase, maybe even a bit better structured overall.

Post by Azherae on 2023-01-28 00:37:39

If anything I found this stream way more structured than the cleric one. They shown off the abilities, shown off the great sword gameplay, the lone hammer gameplay and then the hammer+shield gameplay. They moved through a location, agroing mobs along the way and "just playing the game" as a group with a tank would (a kinda shitty tank, but Steven gonna Steven).

Unless they get another driver for the showcases and remove any kind of developer interaction from the videos - I doubt we'd get a much better stream. The ranger was pretty much the same thing, except it could be shown off solo, because that's how a ranger works. Steven still failed at gameplay, still had to use GM hacks, still had a very vague flow to the gameplay. The biggest difference was that he only had 3 abilities and 2 weapons to show off. And could show the difference in targeting along the way.

In other words, to me this was roughly on the same lvl as the ranger showcase, maybe even a bit better structured overall.

Agreed. I think it did a really good job of showing off things in a way that could elicit at least some feedback, assuming that it was also a good demo of the overall intended flow of the game.

I definitely don't think that Steven failed to represent what they intend for Tanks/Tanking (other than his tendency to be way less careful around mobs to 'simulate a novice player'), and I feel like I could follow along the design structure decently well from this one, as with the Cleric one.

But, to give some very targeted Feedback to Intrepid:

If this gameplay STYLE is not what you're aiming for, OP is completely correct. Stop doing your showcases like this, because in that case it's terribly misleading and confusing. There's no reason to bring four people in to do adventuring and teamwork things when 'the targets/dungeons aren't sufficiently ready'.

I'm here 'assuming that this is what we get' because this was what we got for Ranger, for Cleric, and for Tank now, but if this is not the gameplay goal, please please fix it.

Post by Veeshan on 2023-01-28 01:41:24

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Post by Ludullu on 2023-01-28 02:54:15

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Post by tautau on 2023-01-28 03:08:41

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Post by Ludullu on 2023-01-28 03:19:24

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While I do agree, the YT version of the showcase was definitely much better and they managed to put it out in just a few hours (especially considering 4k processing on yt's side). It's not quite the super strict and precise showing of everything, but it's definitely way more structured and easier to watch.