The Implications of the Removal of Crossbows/Potion Launchers

Post by Ludullu on 2023-03-01 04:37:21

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And I'm pretty much watching the owpvp system disappear in front of my eyes with almost every new dev stream. And I will most likely not play the game on release if it is "gone". But that's a whole system, while weapons are just a fraction of their whole system.

I'm just trying not to draw a line from a point, because I hate when people do that. While twitter is obviously a hellhole, I do think that it represents the worst possible extrapolations that people like to do. And twitter is damn full with people seeing one thing and then extrapolating into the worst possible direction, then thinking that this direction is somehow reality (though no indication of such thing ever happened) and then they argue their ass off against that direction.

Rn, to me, it seems that you're doing exactly that. There's obviously a chance that they remove more features or go back on more promises in the future. But I'd prefer to worry about those if they come, rather than panicking rn.

Also, "having more" hurts when we're talking about a game that has already promised a shitton of stuff and has yet to deliver on the absolute majority of that stuff. We could assume that Intrepid have, realistically, only worked on the game for maybe a year or two, due to super small team early on and then covid messing with stuff. But then it would mean that we still have 5+ years of development ahead of us. And at those time scales I'm almost sure that quite a few things will either get delayed by a lot of removed completely. And right now I'd prefer if those were little things rather than big core systems.

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Post by Ludullu on 2023-03-01 07:13:29

I've only played a game that required particular weapons to use class abilities (so pretty much what Ashes is gonna be), so I got a question. Are there mmos (or even rpgs) where rogues don't use daggers and instead use smth else? I don't think I've even heard of them using short swords or anything like that, but maybe I just missed the game that did that.

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Post by Ludullu on 2023-03-01 07:38:14

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It's just that to me a "Rogue" always means someone who's gonna kill you from the shadows with a super short pointy stick, mainly because anything longer just doesn't work in close quarters. And I can't come up with a weapon that could replace daggers w/o changing the rogues role. Rapier is kinda close and L2 had its rapier-wearing class be as close to a rogue as possible, but it still gave off a light fighter feel rather than a rogue one.

And my point here is that archers aren't the only ones that are limited in their RP weaponry. No one's gonna stop you from just using other weapons, but if you wanna get the best out of your class - you gotta use its main weapon. Just as the tank showcase was laughed at because it didn't have a shield on the tank for the first half of the video, the absolute majority of archers/rogues would be laughed at if they didn't use their main weapons.

Though considering that even the fighter in Ashes has that magic hammer that appears out of nowhere, I'd imagine that other classes will have magic-based attacks that don't really require any specific weapon too. And with a proper set of augments, there'd have to be at least one viable build that uses those abilities with some non-main weapon. You'll still probably get laughed at if you go down that route though.

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