At What Point of Player-Inactivity Should Legendary/Limited Items Re-Drop?

Post by Mag7spy on 2023-05-14 03:50:48

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Post by Ludullu on 2023-05-14 04:50:00

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What I was trying to get at was this. The Unique will not necessarily fit your current build. Hell, it might not even fit any of the builds in your raid/guild. So at that point, the one who gets the Unique will have to create a whole new build to fit the Unique. And if that build takes several weeks (let alone months-year+) - the Unique would be gone before they even get to use it properly.

And the chances that someone outside your guild has the perfect build for that item and has enough money to pay your guild for it are abysmal.

You say that short-lived Uniques would push people to use them, but imo that creates a high stress "feel bad" situation. At first you might be happy that you got the item, but then you realize that if you use it w/o a proper build you'll probably be weaker than you currently are. And if you don't use it - the item is completely useless, so your achievement is meaningless. So why would people continue going after these Uniques if they can never properly utilize them.

The only way to truly experience the Unique's power would be to just have a shitton of money on you at all times, so that you can by the item itself and any other gear that would fit its build (though even this requires you to have the best possible archetype for it). But at that point, who's doing the achievement of having a Unique? Is it the rich boi who's never even touched the boss or is it the guild that spent months preparing and defending their farm all just to sell the literally best loot from it?

Post by Mag7spy on 2023-05-14 05:13:36

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Post by Ludullu on 2023-05-14 05:22:36

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If Intrepid go down the "fits anyone" route with Uniques, I guess I wouldn't really care if they are short-lived. Mainly because, in a way, that's how L2's "uniques" worked. While they weren't one-of-a-kind items, they did fit a broad range of applicable classes.

And as for guilds, as I said here before, I shared those very uniques in L2 with others, so yeah I know that guilds will give the item to the most appropriate member (well, unless they're nepotists of course). But literally the same thing would happen with the long-lived Unique, which is why I don't really consider this a strong argument either :)

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Post by Ludullu on 2023-05-14 05:52:35

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Yes, but across a super long time of having that Unique in guild's possession, there might be players that decide to work towards a build that matches it. If anything, I feel like this would be a deeper overall interaction for all sides involved, as long as we all know the Uniques that drop.

Say Guild A drops a weapon for a specific tank build. Other pieces of that build drop in a particular location. Now guild B, that's been trying to fight guild A for a long time, knows that they could contest that location to try and prevent guild A from making a stronger build.

Hell, I'd love if Uniques enabled some mat drops in certain locations, that then led to new dials during crafting. This would bring a whole new lvl to guild competitiveness and location control. But that's obviously a whole different discussion.

But the point is, this would only work if the item stays for a long while. Or, as you say, if it fit anyone. And if it fits anyone, then there's no real reason to keep it exclusive, cause everyone will already have a build that "fits" it.

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