Post by SongRune on 2023-07-02 00:58:48
It's not quite "how many freeholds will exist", but I'll just leave this here, as it's related. From the feedback thread...
In terms of the "You don't need a freehold. There will be lower tier housing for everyone" argument...
Maybe not?
This is obviously equally rough back of the napkin math based on numbers I didn't personally verify. But then again... I did it the generous way. I doubled, and doubled, and doubled, even when there might be more profit to be made with different mayoral investments. I assumed every possible node was built up fully (in terms of requirements for housing anyway), even though that's literally not possible with the Vassal system.
Freeholds aside, at the "back of the envelope math" level, Ashes has a homeless problem.
Maybe they're relying on "everyone has a ton of alts which share housing with each other"? I know a lot of people play this way. (If the story's any good, I probably won't have any alts.) But at that point all it takes is mayors investing a bit less generously in housing instead of other things, and "not assuming an impossible level of server development".
Or you know. People buying an instanced apartment in different city for every alt...
Actually. If accounts share housing, since it's one per character... Maybe I will have a few lv1 alts.
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Wait seriously? Are these numbers correct?
85 nodes. 50 apartments (hell, let's say mayor builds double: 100 apartments). That's 8,500 people with housing. 50,000 registered accounts per server. Hell let's double it again. 17,000. And again. Every mayor in every possible node builds 7 extra apartment buildings instead of something else. 34,000. At 50,000 registered accounts per server, that's 16,000 homeless people without even instanced housing.
The 8*85=680 (or doubled 1,360 (or doubled-doubled 2,720)) non-instanced node houses aren't even gonna make a dent.
(16,000-2720)/85=156.
Are there gonna be 156 freeholds at every single node? I really hope you did the math, Intrepid, cause it seems like you're gonna have a homeless problem even on a very well-developed server.
In terms of the "You don't need a freehold. There will be lower tier housing for everyone" argument...
Maybe not?
This is obviously equally rough back of the napkin math based on numbers I didn't personally verify. But then again... I did it the generous way. I doubled, and doubled, and doubled, even when there might be more profit to be made with different mayoral investments. I assumed every possible node was built up fully (in terms of requirements for housing anyway), even though that's literally not possible with the Vassal system.
Freeholds aside, at the "back of the envelope math" level, Ashes has a homeless problem.
Maybe they're relying on "everyone has a ton of alts which share housing with each other"? I know a lot of people play this way. (If the story's any good, I probably won't have any alts.) But at that point all it takes is mayors investing a bit less generously in housing instead of other things, and "not assuming an impossible level of server development".
Or you know. People buying an instanced apartment in different city for every alt...
Actually. If accounts share housing, since it's one per character... Maybe I will have a few lv1 alts.
