It's probably me being elitist, but telling me 'there will be sieges and arenas and owPvP' tells me nothing about the quality of that PvP. I don't feel we have the PvP information either, and certainly nothing that would inform anything whatsoever about any PvX.
But what do we know about the pve plans? The only real statement about the hardcore design was from yeaars ago (and a tiiny bit from an interview several months back).
The Tumok fight we got is supposedly the "low lvl content" design, so, in theory, it shouldn't be even counted when thinking about complex pve.
To me pvp quality relies on 2 things. Class design and situations where you can have that pvp. Obviously we got fuckall info on class design, but this relates to the pve side as well, cause it's also influenced by class design.
And we've gotten a shitton of info about pvp situations, and we've even gotten huge updates on that (seas, node ruins). We've seen sieges in A1, we've now seen caravans, we're about to see some other pvp, we've seen Steven getting corruption in the last stream (which relates to the overall owpvp part of the game), we've gotten confirmation that GWs will have always-on pvp - and all of that is just the stuff that I remember off the top of my head rn.
Yes, we can't speak to the innate quality of that pvp, but like I said, I don't want to directly see the complex pve right now. I want them to talk about their plans, just as they've talked about those pvp situations.
Maybe I'm forgetting some details, but have we ever gotten a discussion on what kind of tools pve devs are working with? I wanna hear some dev being super excited for all the possibilities that their tools allow them to explore.
And if all of that is impossible to really talk about until the game has a more stable class design presentation - then we're in for, potentially, years of everyone calling Ashes a pvp game, because all we see/hear about is pvp. Imo this would simply ruin the image of the game (or at least the supposedly desired image).
If we had a pve plans stream, we'd be able to point to that any time some new rando comes here yelling that this will be a shitty pvp game that will be DOA.
