Female Armor

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Disclaimer I have no idea what you want from an mmo, but its not hard to find sexualized skimpy bikini armor in mmos. It's basically industry standard for video games. Things that I have personally enjoyed the cosmetics in that skew towards my personal perception of 'thot' armor. NeverWinter, Skyforge, and BDO just off the top of my head. Games that have a fair mix of both FFXIV (which I don't personally play because a different game fits what I want from it better.) Skyforge in particular has been decent gameplay to decent cosmetic ratio for me personally.

I think we are in similar positions. We both are currently looking for a game that fills all our niche desires. Therefore I will reiterate that my problem with sexualized stuff isnt the content itself (again I enjoy it to some degree.) It is that the other half of design gets neglected in favor of the more profitable sexualized stuff. Even when a game has good intentions, it starts skewing more and more that way over time, selling out their intended asthetic for 'what sells best.'

I don't blame them for doing so. They are a business. But the simplest way to prevent the demand is to just 'not go down that road to begin with.' This obviously has the flaw of you not getting things you would really like to see. I wish there was a way to balance the two truly and maybe Intrepid will succeed at that. I would be delighted for that to happen.

I think the best way to balance the two is to make the more popular to the general video game community stuff 'the paid for option.' It's not like they can get away with cash shop only armor development after all, given their started design goals.

But you already iterated you generally agree with me on this point. I am mostly reiterating a lot of this because my position is super nuanced compared to a yes no and I am used to vent misunderstood as a result.

I hope you get armor that your truly happy with if the game turns out to fill your needs, regardless of my own opinion.

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Yeah given your notes in other threads it seems you want a pretty specific game experience. I on the other hand need like three things in AoC to be happy (a good farming system, summoner to work a certain way, and root motion attacks.) However Costume aesthetic means quite a lot to me. I'm a bit of a costume fanatic so 'what stuff' are available disproportionately affects my fun.

Alright. I assume you want my feedback on these. If not please note I am only giving my opinion and not trying to impose my standards on your taste....

The first one seems a bit much. It's extremely ornate for starters. A much less detailed one probably would make more sense for in game. It looks fairly ornamental/costumey over all. If it had more outer thigh protection it'd probably get no complaints from me if it was in game as legendary armor. It feels closer to BDO's asthetic over all.

I appreciate a little more realism than you so the second one secondly veers into 'thot' territory for me due to the lack of chainmail. But I think that's a personal style opinion. I just simply strongly dislike 'exposed chest' to that degree as battle armor. Would make a cool vampire costume though.

The pirate one is definitely the one I would say is cosmetic shop only if it were up to me. Hands down.

Other than the extreme proportions on some of the rest, I think those are perfectly in line with ashes aesthetic. The last one is a little on the edge for me, but not quite. Battle mages gotta get cool stuff right? That's about it from me.

I think I detailed my own personal standards earlier in the thread if you wanna know why.

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Ah I so love when people have a long careful nuanced debate in a thread with people showing vulnerability on both sides to eventually be met with a newcomer who has clearly not read the thread.

But alright mate. The reason for cash shops is because some people want things that don't quite fit the games aesthetic, but are still acceptable to the designers and community. Are you going to deny people thematic or stylistic costumes not easily accessible or appropriate to the setting and games style just because you 'don't like cash shops in a subscription game'?

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I tend to appreciate M ratings for more story driven games. A sand box is community created story and is better off not getting too 'mature' (or immature in terms of moderation.) Meanwhile an M rating never seems to deter younger people from actually playing (GTA series comes to mind.) Sandboxes are always really hard to rate once you get past children vs not

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We can both agree Terra cosmetics are 'a bit much' and I say that as someone who does like a lot of even BDO's 'thot' level stuff.

Yeah I think the second one is by far my bias showing the strongest. Sorry if it sounded like I was nitpicking too hard I just have extremely specific opinions on a lot of aspects about cosmetics. I can get a little overfocused when giving my opinion. Other than the pirate one I generally agree with you irt them not being 'thot' level. We definitely have slightly different thresholds it sounds like, but not irreconcilable.

I am curious what sort of adjustments you would like made to the past pre,order costumes to fit closer to your desired aesthetic or even past ones that you thought were close with a bit more tweaking would also be cool to know. (I would link them here myself but I haven't figured out bbc images yet. Please teach me your witchcraft in pm if you don't mind >.>;;;)

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Right? Lol.

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If it's a rogue or assassin class that's constantly moving around, sure, you can maybe twist it with the fact that their naturally high agility makes that possible. It stretches belief but fine, fair enough.

But a tank? Bracing for huge hits in heels ? Not happening, no thank you.

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Many a good Korean mmo costume ruined by high heel only footwear.