DPS Meter Megathread

Post by Aerlana on 2022-09-26 14:33:22

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Post by Azherae on 2022-09-26 14:40:08

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If you do not want people to have a Tracker you cannot give them a Combat Log that gives them information.

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Post by Azherae on 2022-09-26 14:48:59

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The problem is, this isn't hours if the log is available as text. And what's the point of a log that isn't available to the player as text? It's not a 'log' then.

Even Windows gives you a Linux Subsystem now. This isn't even about 'does the average player currently know how to use regexes'. If there was a way to stop the average player from running a Log Parser downloaded from somewhere else, it wouldn't matter because all the tools required to do this now come with the same OS we use to play the game on, easier to install sometimes than the game itself.

Intrepid is not going to ban people for using their perl command line, so either they give us no Combat Log access, or anyone who can install this game without help probably can have a Parser style tracker.

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So a Combat Log that doesn't tell me how much damage my raid members do, or how much damage they take?

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Post by Azherae on 2022-09-26 15:00:47

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The point is relative to toxicity.

You have basically made two points. You don't want Trackers to exist so that players can't blaze through content. But if a Combat Log exists and a group chooses to combine their logs, a Tracker exists.

You don't want people tracking other people. That is avoidable if somehow logs are very carefully set, but then people might just refuse to let others join their guilds because of not providing logs. This would be fine and your goal would be achieved IF the first thing wasn't true.

If there is a Log and people can share their logs, you cannot prevent the effects of a Tracker that you're concerned about.

EDIT: At best, you can sorta-prevent the effects that @MrPockets is concerned about, but at that point, Noaani's suggestion is very slightly better.

Because parsing logs is not hard. The only reason people don't know that it isn't hard is because Trackers are basically a one click solution whereas Parsers require you to type two lines and open Excel (opening Excel might be optional)

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