Corruption system in relation to auto-flagging in open sea

Post by CROW3 on 2022-08-28 15:38:57

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None of these things are problems under the corruption system as it was described?

Does damaging a ship flag you?
Yes, just like damaging a player flags you.

Does one flagged/corrupted player make the whole ship flagged/corrupted?
No, just like one flagged/corrupted player doesn't make the whole group they are in flagged/corrupted.

How do ship abilities like cannons work when only part of the enemy crew is flagged/corrupted? etc
The same way?

You mention these as 'issues', but the only 'issues' I see are that players would need to flag up to attack crews that are not 'all pirates' and therefore wouldn't give those crews more corruption. 'Incidental damage' to ships where some of the crew is flagged and some not (this wouldn't even need to be allowed) doesn't have to corrupt anyone anyway.

The main reason I don't understand the post is that everything would have worked without 'issues' unless we consider 'issues' to be 'it's more required for a ship to flag up' and 'players might not accrue corruption as much/correctly'.

'Solving' those 'issues' by removing any flag up and dismissing all corruption isn't a thing one does for the purposes of solving the issues. That would literally be going 'people aren't careful enough about forest fires, so let's burn the whole forest down', except even that analogy wouldn't work, at least in that case you'd have Controlled Burn with an actual purpose.

"Corruption doesn't work to protect people on the sea as much, let's just remove it so there's no protection at all."

If the above is a reasoning that was seriously used for this, even I would need to start to care about this situation.

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@Dygz I think this is why, as a PvP-er, I see your departure as bad.

This is the same way that Fighting Games die, their communities cannibalize themselves because the vocal supporters of whatever annoying/stressful mechanic, react with 'rejection'/'hostility' to anyone who 'doesn't like it and hopes the developers change it'.

The community fractures, with the defenders becoming more and more insular, the game population becoming smaller and smaller and more focused on 'defending their beliefs from others who don't agree' even those who are just 'explaining why they don't play' or 'why they prefer other games instead', sometimes quite literally when asked ('hey why don't we see you for matches anymore?' and 'hey I heard you quit, what happened?')

To me, people having these sorts of reactions to you becoming the norm is a big red flag for an unsustainably niche game, but that's subject to goals.

You've been here longer, so I ask you, was there ever an impression given by Steven, that Ashes is supposed to be bigger than ArcheAge? I can see how the entire plan might just have been to make a game that has maybe two servers per region and call it at that, but subtleties like that won't be on a wiki.

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I don't have anything to say to you, you can assume that anything you believe about my perspective is true and 'other' me as well.

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