Freeholds P2W?

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I'm fairly sure it's super fun for everyone who uses it. It's the poor people w/o money that complain about it. If p2w wasn't fun it wouldn't be the most profitable monetization method in the genre.

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There's no sane way to prevent this for a Western game. Korean ones can (and do) demand unique personal identifiers.

But unless Intrepid wants to lockout every couple who wants to play together but don't want to share a Freehold, or every 'pair of siblings who share a computer or internet connection but play separately', we're not going to see anything to prevent this.

Therefore as usual the only thing they can do is focus on 'making it harder to do or less effective in some way'.

This is why the argument here is the EQUIVALENT of 'having friends is P2W'.

I can go one step further to the ultimate. Being married irl is pay to win.

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We're back to that whole 'exactly which barrier stops people?' thing.

I don't AGREE with you about which barrier we should be relying on, so I consider it valid that you perceive 'might as well let alts have it instead of making someone pay an extra $180 a year'.

But it WILL stop some subset of people, and the only question is if that is a 'big enough' subset for Intrepid's purposes. I think this way is MORE effective because, the sort of person who has LOTS of time could earn a Freehold twice over in your scenario.

And the sort of person who has a spare $180 a year to spend on it might not have time to EARN the second Freehold. But maybe not. But I feel this is a good metric. If you are spending money for the relatively limited opportunity to do something, and that isn't a big enough barrier for quite a few people, then sure, things will go in the 'everyone should have a second Freehold' direction.

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I for one ascribe to this incredible gaming lifehack and will be using it for every raid.

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REALLY not a believer in this whole 'division of labor and costs' thing, huh?

For YOU there is probably no reason, because that's your mentality. For four people I know, it saves them time, money, and worry about maintenance.

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Sorry, I didn't mean it that way.

My point is 'some players will do it' is not necessarily a negative because 'some players' will do nearly anything to avoid having to rely on other players.

I would GUESS that the goal is to make it so it is not the best plan unless you don't value 'the interaction with others'. So that people who are happy to leave things to others at least somewhat, don't have to worry about being denied an advantage OTHER THAN being self-sufficient.

In relation to the point specifically about 'owning a Freehold' for example, my friends can all use mine (assuming I am even the first one to get it, but I'm the Processor of my group so it is likely), and that's it. Why would they want to do that? Because it doesn't bother them, and getting their own is unnecessary time and work that they could devote to something else.