CORRUPTION/OUTDOOR SYSTEM/PVP

Post by Solvryn on 2022-12-31 18:49:50

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-12-31 18:51:11

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Somehow that sounds really Dunning-Krugeristic. I've seen way too many people who "knew the design perfectly", yet then failed to explain it properly on several occasions.

But on the off chance that you do in fact understand it, if you're such a good pvper that you're ready to fight anyone, why do you even care about the corrupted death penalty? If you never die to BHs - you'll never suffer the penalties. And you'll just need to avoid the stronger green players while you grind off your corruption. Seems like an easy life for a good pvper.

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-12-31 18:56:34

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So that going Red is a rare enough occurrence that most pacifistic players feel safe enough to play the game for a long time. This would not only bring more money for Intrepid, but would also make the game a much better mmo, because pretty much every single mmo where you can kill anyone and everyone as much as you want becomes a 1-2k-player swamp or changes into an instanced-based game within a few updates.

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-12-31 19:33:26

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Especially when in the context of a PK your victim doesn't fight back, which means that you could use any kind of shitty gear to kill them. At which point even one good PK could provide you with a huge profit over what you spent on that kill. Yet another example of risk/reward. You risk losing in pvp if your target fights back and has better gear, but you stand to gain much more if they don't.

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Post by Ludullu on 2022-12-31 22:29:37

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Funny you say that.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tal9UO0PUhw

And while Steven's talking about the pve extremists here, the same applies to the pvp extremists too, as pointed out in the clarification of the griefing rules in one of the recent streams.

Post by Ludullu on 2022-12-31 22:30:26

Btw, here's another explanation for why the system is the way that it is
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IUGrCOhURvU

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Post by Ludullu on 2023-01-01 14:52:33

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There's a difference between a player who comes here to enjoy the game for what it is and someone who wants to change it drastically. Imo both "add way more instanced content and also remove owpvp" and "remove harsh penalties on corruption or the corruption system itself" are too big of a change to the core principles of the game.

As Steven said in the video I posted, he has a vision for his game and that vision won't suit every player out there. And that vision has barely changed since the start of the development (though those god damn open seas definitely make my argument weaker).

So when I see the 10th thread about "removing pvp" or "removing any punishment for PKing", my first reply is usually "this game is not for you", mainly because out of those previous 9 threads the OP rarely understands why the game is designed the way that it is. I'm glad that Jinro is seemingly in the minority of people who has grasped the design and can at least wait till later testing to see if it works out.

But I'd rather put a big filter at the start of such threads, which would keep the true extremists away from the game while also letting through anyone who's at least willing to try and understand the game's design and then make a decision whether they agree with it or not.

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