That situation isn't rare.
I see your point, but how often would this kind of situation happen exactly in relation to some particular store cosmetic. I guess I should've made that more explicit in that post.
I understand how and why the story might require a very specific look from a participant. But I'm not sure whether AoC's cosmetic store will have such an incredible and unique variety of items that the situation your described in your original post would happen often enough for it to be statistically significant.
And if you do think this might happen often enough, could you tell me what you're basing that assumption on?
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Not really arguing. Simply presenting her pov better. You just said that the shop is p2w for your preferred gameplay. Then the whole thread went into semantics of what's p2w or what's winning or whose gameplay is more valid blahblahblah.
But nowhere in those blahs did you provide a concrete example that would support your pov. Pretty much all your arguments came down to subjective perceptions of the cosmetics, while Azherae provided an objective example that proved your point. And considering that a ton of "blahs" were around subjectivity vs objectivity, presenting an objective point would've really helped out your case. Even if all the other participants of the discussion still couldn't get that objective point through their thicc skulls. But that's more on them than on the point itself.
On that point, Iridianny and I entirely disagree and we disagreed in the last thread too.
It's still undefined somewhat by Intrepid. In the recent months of cosmetics, I've been on the fence quite a lot relative to whether or not Iridianny was right at the time, and I still am.
That Vaelune Negotiator set (see below) for example. I can absolutely see a reality in which there is no equivalent of this set earnable in game for some reason (I would not expect this from Intrepid, but I have to accept that it is possible).
I can also see a possibility of this set, particularly given its lore, being very unique (among players).
If
and
only if
this set is, for some reason, unique, nothing like it in game available to players, strong representation of an NPC role, etc, I'm absolutely calling it. There is nothing quite like this for the purpose and feeling it's supposed to convey, in RolePlay.
On the other extreme, if the only real difference from the ingame earned one is 'The store one is white and has normal shoes and less frills' then the reaction of 'Who even cares, it means nothing even to RolePlayers', I can see myself saying.
But I can tell you as a roleplayer, if you must 'reach the top rank in the Vaelune Negotiator Social Organization' to get the equivalent of this, and for that you have to travel to and live somewhere in the desert for a month of gameplay running around doing quests, I'm going to very much wish that I'd bought this skin, and I'm not going to feel justified 'taking the Vaelune Negotiator spot' in a story over someone who did, until I get it.
I get that people 'don't see how this can be so important to us', I really do. I also absolutely understand how 'But that's not P2W' is a valid take, but depending on your perception of the
core gameplay of Ashes
, it can at least be a big deal to someone like me, and everything Iridianny has ever seriously said on these forums indicates that she nearly as much if not more time specifically coordinating RP than I do.
So, I said to her then "you don't know that you should be complaining about this, wait and see".
And I say to others now "you don't know that she shouldn't be complaining about this, wait and see".
