Off-topic Discussions from 'we have a new lead game designer bill trost'

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Post by Ludullu on 2023-06-18 05:08:45

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And that is my exact point. There should be enough pve content (of any kind) for everyone on the server. The quality of that content will obviously range from dogshit to peak, but any person should always have at least smth pve to do at any and all times. The higher you go in quality - the harder it'll be to participate in that content, but that's exactly how it should be imo.

And yes, that high quality content will usually be controlled by strong guilds and sometimes weaker guilds will have to band together to push the strong dudes out. All of that is exactly how I want it and I'll be in one of those weaker guilds, trying to band people together.

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Post by Azherae on 2023-06-20 15:59:04

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This is the reason they gave for it.

It is the reason they still give.

It would take me forever to find the video, of course, so you can take my word for it, or do your usual, but for data for those who track me, I watched BDO's community streams and design stuff and developer notes for a while to study.

This is absolutely one of the reasons for their 'whole single world' thing, and it's an explicit part of the game loop to 'change servers if you are not able to win at your PvE grindspot'. The idea being that you 'move around every time you lose until you find someone you can beat', because it lowers the 'pain point' ratio (and if you always win, move to the 'PvP' server where there is no 'Corruption' but 50% more loot, since you have 'earned' it by being the best).

Instead of the strongest player making 9 people have the all-loss experience, 9 people get the 'well, I beat someone' experience and only one gets the all-loss, if the 'intended flow' is followed (in the optimal case).

The paragraph directly above this is an extrapolation, not part of what they said. They only said the 'move around every time you lose to get other/fairer matches' part. It's pretty ingenious, as retention mechanics go, but it is still only about as effective as matchmaking is, which is to say, not very effective long term.

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