Off-topic Discussions from 'we have a new lead game designer bill trost'

Post by Azherae on 2023-06-20 16:16:29

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For clarity this is not only untrue, it is very untrue .

It would take me too long to detail why, so as usual, I hate to have to make this post type, but I hope people can forgive me for not engaging with Mag7 on this matter in this way. The unfair allotment of time between the 'Here is the exact reason with references, design doc equivalents, and statistics" and "nuh uh!" is just not tenable.

Post by Mag7spy on 2023-06-20 16:20:27

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Post by Mag7spy on 2023-06-20 16:22:18

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Post by Noaani on 2023-06-20 16:23:05

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Post by Azherae on 2023-06-20 16:24:41

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Ok you should probably just go back to whatever it was you were trying to argue with Noaani about design now.

The entire reason I said anything was to clarify just this:

The Developers and Community Managers have said things that support Noaani's point both explicitly and implicitly, and counter the claim you are making, which is:

"This isn't why they designed it this way."

Whether or not it is working is subjective in some perspectives apparently (I did not expect this, but I accept it). The question is if they did it for that reason. The answer is yes.

Post by Noaani on 2023-06-20 16:28:32

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Post by Mag7spy on 2023-06-20 16:33:27

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Post by Mag7spy on 2023-06-20 16:36:35

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Post by Mag7spy on 2023-06-20 16:43:33

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Post by Azherae on 2023-06-20 16:49:40

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I have no doubt that even if I slogged through everything to find it, managed to pin it down, and linked it, you'd still just claim 'that's not really what they meant though'. Such is the deep and meaningful rapport we two have.

I'll do my usual and trust that at least some people know that I take my studies/data more seriously than you. Carry on.

Post by Mag7spy on 2023-06-20 17:16:44

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Post by Azherae on 2023-06-20 17:31:54

Rescinded flow.

Post by Ludullu on 2023-06-21 02:42:18

Just my 3.5 cents. Shards is the dumbest thing ever and I hate them :) Also, if the location is popular enough to have pvping people on all shards - it means that someone will always be the loser and they'll either have to leave the location or leave the game. So, as was said by others, the system is pretty much purely for avoiding pvp.

If PA wanted to have everyone play together they wouldn't go for the shards approach. Unless I'm completely misunderstanding how they work, shards literally put you in a separate "instance" of the game. You have other people in that instance, but you avoided people in the previous instance. It is literally instancing but for the whole damn game. And instances have always been used to let people avoid other people (and pvp they might produce).

Ashes is not going for shards exactly because they don't want to let people just run away from pvp.

Post by Noaani on 2023-06-21 02:52:17

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Post by Mag7spy on 2023-06-21 05:36:49

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Post by Noaani on 2023-06-21 06:28:21

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Post by KingDDD on 2023-06-21 07:13:12

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Post by Noaani on 2023-06-21 07:29:17

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Post by Mag7spy on 2023-06-21 13:04:17

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Post by Noaani on 2023-06-21 14:07:38

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Post by Noaani on 2023-06-21 15:04:35

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Post by Azherae on 2023-06-21 15:10:36

Are we really gonna get a No True Scotsman on top of everything else?

That'll fill my Bingo card!

Post by Mag7spy on 2023-06-21 15:28:43

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Post by Noaani on 2023-06-21 23:59:06

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Post by Mag7spy on 2023-06-22 00:56:45

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Post by Noaani on 2023-06-22 02:20:00

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Post by Mag7spy on 2023-06-22 03:44:32

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Post by Electronn on 2023-06-22 04:31:36

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