Hypothesis confirmed, The real reason why PvE players don't like PvX for AoC, EUREKA !!

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Obviously not watching the monthly streams smh my head. She's mentioned that several times in the past

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That's... kinda oversimplifying it?

Taking it out of Ashes realm altogether, the person in charge of Console BDO right now (and I think sorta BDO in general) is a person who, if they were given their own MMO to make I would back it instantly .

But I don't like BDO. There used to be a person at Intrepid who worked alongside Steven who was like that, who left years ago. So for Dygz, (and maybe for me but I'm still not sure yet), that person was the one you could have the confidence in, for keeping the game in a space where one would play.

That's why you'll keep getting that explanation 'But Jeffrey Bard left'.

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It's a long explanation, but if I try to make it short, it's because BDO is very Korean.

There's a narrative lately that says 'Korean gamers don't like TL because it isn't P2W enough'. This sounds ridiculous at first, but it's not entirely wrong, because P2W also comes with the idea that you have rare chances of getting relatively large jumps in power or things other people envy.

Spend more time and those chances go up. The dopamine hit is bigger.

The person who 'heads BDO's design' right now, Je-seok Jang, is one of my favorite designers/team leads, making lots of decisions that I feel would make even some of the most critical people happy, but BDO's base is very hard to pull 'back' to a good spot. As of my last check, he was still trying.

But every time he tries, to add interest, challenge, or even just grouping content to the game, just some scrap of something with 'meaning' beyond 'grind here and hope you get ahead of all the other people', the playerbase complains about something (because the playerbase of BDO can roughly be split into whales, lifeskillers, and grinders, or at least this was true before Land of the Morning Sun) being too technical, difficult, or involved (and maybe not profitable enough).

BDO PvE-ers want most of the game handed to them (difficulty wise), and so, every attempt to improve an actual gameplay system gets pushback within a month. I call it pushback because Je-seok occasionally gives interviews/Dev Discussions with fairly specific details about his goals, and usually, the things that get implemented don't get 'removed', they get massively undermined .

Now, it could be that it's all just a ruse/act and he doesn't actually care about the design things he says and he is himself the one designing the things that undermine the 'interest grabbing' designs and appeasing the whales. I just don't get that impression from him.

Anyways BDO sucks for the same reason that TL doesn't suck yet. The game's 'paying' audience barely wants to play an MMO to begin with.

I'd whine about the economy too, but I think everyone knows my opinion on the BDO 'economy' already.

tl;dr I would trust Je-seok Jang to rip out the broken base of BDO and install a new one, or to make a new MMO from scratch, but they will never let that man actually fix BDO because what is left of its 'paying' community wouldn't want it if he did.

I wish him the best in someday getting a chance to do that.

And that's the real reason PvE players don't like PvX for AoC.

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Kinda sounds like Steven tbh