Hypothesis confirmed, The real reason why PvE players don't like PvX for AoC, EUREKA !!

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That's not why I'm here.

I'm mostly here because my group insisted something close to the opposite.

I am here to remind Intrepid that they don't have Originality on their side either and need to step it up. I am here to offer whatever I can to help them do that. But if the PvP part of the game is holding back that potential, saying that the PvE players are the ones that have to change is a rough sell.

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Mostly because there are also lots of games out there where you can PvP each other to death, but for some reason, they have really low populations...

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I agree completely.

I only personally care because if this game does anything close to what I've experienced from other games like it which I like, there will be one server, probably on the West Coast, and my ping will be at least somewhat frustrating, even with the game's relatively (for me) average combat.

I just need it to appeal to enough MMO gamers for all the systems in it to work, and also not just get the 'one megaguild' effect.

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I don't wanna argue too much (though this thread is a good place for it), but I will point out that this is one of the biggest 'market demographic' failures/fallacies Ashes seems to be riding on.

For a laundry list of reasons, the specific design of Ashes 'PvX' at this moment does not hold any more appeal to the 'common player' than pretty much any upcoming (or often, old) option.

The biggest problem I ever have 'convincing' anyone else about this game who I think even partially fits into this demographic is a lack of convincing aspects to point to.

Or a better way to put it would be, I'm gonna take a harsh stance here and say 'No, Ashes does not have a lot of variables for adjusting balance while still being appealing, and thinking that it does, will be the downfall of this game'.

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lol, did I just see "man up" and "join a stronger guild" (to hide behind) in the same post?

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